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[jspirate]

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and then I start the 3DG.

 

Approach shot to 17:

[Ian]

Come on Scotty, you can do this!     

[jspirate]

I think I can see what the problem is Scott, if you stopped teasing us with pictures and actually got back to work, we could all play the bloody course! 

Less tease, more speed....................
 

 

It just hit me!!!

 

If I am a tease, maybe I shouldn't feel bad about that?  Maybe I should just go full-on and throw it all out there?1?!  Ya know what I mean?  Just be EASY and LOOSE with ALL of it?

I am thinking...  Maybe I use the interwebs (mostly this forum) to post Crow's Nest pictures not stop.  Ima post pics at every angle and some will be very revealing!!! I mean, at this point I can't really ruin my rep... Maybe its best if I just embrace it!

 

YEP.... get ready for some loose and nasty picture spamming!  

[Perculator]

It just hit me!!!

 

If I am a tease, maybe I shouldn't feel bad about that?  Maybe I should just go full-on and throw it all out there?1?!  Ya know what I mean?  Just be EASY and LOOSE with ALL of it?

I am thinking...  Maybe I use the interwebs (mostly this forum) to post Crow's Nest pictures not stop.  Ima post pics at every angle and some will be very revealing!!! I mean, at this point I can't really ruin my rep... Maybe its best if I just embrace it!

 

YEP.... get ready for some loose and nasty picture spamming!  

 

Scott, 

Can you put a little "hair around the holes"? My flatstick needs all the help it can get.

 

Perc

[jspirate]

Well Perc, I have not seen that tool in the Course Forge package.  Maybe you can visual the shot in your mind before you hit it?  LOL

[J.H.Buchanan]

A play-through of holes 5 and 6...

 

https://youtu.be/74coSXVLz-g

 

Course looks fantastic the course I made I agonized when a player may press F3 or the shot got followed because it would expose seams many of which (mesh seams) that I could not hide I need to figure out blending, and grasses, and other stuff texture editing or something but this course looks great - good Job. I am glad to know about the rocks on Hole 6 so ya simply loft it up an bounce it off the rock - not to much because of the water .... The car paths are great thats a lot of work they are not to wide just right and the greens I get picky about green breaks because I do not putt very well it looks like your greens are just right I have a problem getting them this way mine are more on the flatter side because I end up getting them to slanted great job again. some green shots I wanted it flat to the pin though if the player made a great shot .. got it close on the correct side of the pin ... glad your moving along. 

[J.H.Buchanan]

The pics are great because if we play the course many of the angles we will not see everything goes together and the "bulkhead" I think that is the term on hole 13 looks great the brick wall holding the green with the water. This course will put anyone in a great mood its like therapy. And this is a fictional mountain course the heights and lower areas all look realistic and were all made from scratch !!! from the imagination. Thanks for the links in your signature I now have a folder named jspirate courses which has all of them now wheeeee. (also went to PGLS did a search found the 3DGrass one also )    According to my records his first course was published right at about 2 years ago around July 2nd, 2018. Bradford Links 

[J.H.Buchanan]

Now I'm happy I downloaded Bradford Links 

 

here is my first shot off the tee  >>>> https://youtu.be/XZjymJuqTWo

 

Then on the next hole I said, "Look at that if I thread it betwixt the sandies it may roll onto the green" - What a fantastic hole ... !!!  I banged it into the left trap  and ended up with a bogey 

 

Then I got mad and restarted the course thinking I am not going to play a course that looks this good all pissed off. At first I was thinking when I landed in the trap wow I got to play this course again some time and this is on the 2nd hole then after the bogey .... 

 

 

 

So now we are here after the redo 

 

bradford replay by Jim Smyth, on Flickr

 

so ..... now I'm happy - I do play on Amateur level though so I usually get under par on any course the reason I go on Amateur is because, well,  check the video again and check the bunker shot at hole 2 these things can happen at ANY given moment so I had to tweak it. My bogeys and birdies are usually about even then I squeak by with a -2 for any 18 hole course. 

[Ian]

No, No, No, No, No, No, NO! Please stop distracting him. He's so easily led astray. A cold beer, a pretty girl, actually ANYTHING will do it. We want, nay Sir, we demand,  that you finish the course, or we will be left with little choice but to send in the alcohol and drug squad. Ah ha, see, now you're taking it seriously Scott!   

[jspirate]

Then I got mad and restarted the course thinking I am not going to play a course that looks this good all pissed off. At first I was thinking when I landed in the trap wow I got to play this course again some time and this is on the 2nd hole then after the bogey .... 

 

 

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Bradford was my first course and after I completed it I decided that my next fictional course wouldn't start out with such a difficult drive.  I like the hole, but it puts alot of pressure on your first shot of the day.  Live and learn...

[jspirate]

I am glad to know about the rocks on Hole 6 so ya simply loft it up an bounce it off the rock - not to much because of the water

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Well, the goal is to miss the rock, but I didn't do that in the video LOL

[J.H.Buchanan]

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Bradford was my first course and after I completed it I decided that my next fictional course wouldn't start out with such a difficult drive.  I like the hole, but it puts alot of pressure on your first shot of the day.  Live and learn...

 

somewhere somehow I heard that when making a course the 1st hole should be relatively easy this lines up with my google research:

 

https://www.golfadvi...nt-to-be-broken

 

There first statement is 

 

Rule 1: The first hole should always be a “gentle handshake” that eases players into the round

 

What is so hilarious is when I played that first hole I didn't even look at the water I just looked at the fairway and how it bends right and how far I need to go to be beyond the trees then I hit it and I'm thinking what's that shiney stuff ... oh its water .... wheeeee 

[jspirate]

somewhere somehow I heard that when making a course the 1st hole should be relatively easy this lines up with my google research:

 

https://www.golfadvi...nt-to-be-broken

 

There first statement is 

 

Rule 1: The first hole should always be a “gentle handshake” that eases players into the round

 

What is so hilarious is when I played that first hole I didn't even look at the water I just looked at the fairway and how it bends left and how far I need to go to be beyond the trees then I hit it and I'm thinking what's that shiney stuff ... oh its water .... wheeeee 

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I am good with all the rules except rule 3:

Rule 3: The 18th hole should be challenging, in order to settle bets

 

I don't play real golf anymore, but when I did I played 2 - 3 times a week.  In my opinion, a tough 18 does nothing for a round.  If you have a good round round going, it can have you ending on a bad note.  If you have a bad round going, you don't have an legit chance of cleaning it up tad.  Either way, you dread the end of the round.  In my opinion, that doesn't help the fun of the game. 

 

Other than that, I wish I had the list in front of me before I released Bradford.  Unfortunately, my son deleted my unity files for Bradford by accident when I gave him my computer.  So... Bradford will remain as is!

 

 

[Joe Habiger]

Most people don't play from the back tees and surely the championship tees so even a course like Hazeltine is a good fun golf round from the white (member) tees. But unlike most golf games PC or Console not many of us can hit a golfball with a Driver more than 275 so we don't need a tough test. I really hate the fact that all these golf games you can hit 300 yards with ease.

Be nice if they could put out a patch to tone down the driver distance. Not possible though.

[jspirate]

Soooooo, I have to admit that I am near the end of the 26 mile marathon and I can almost see the finish line.  I contemplate finishing, but I can't seem to get there 

 

Anyway, I did accomplish a new milestone that is noteworthy (maybe just to those who design).

The long-story-short is that there are a heck of alot of trees on this course:

 

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[jspirate]

Ok, OK, OK... for all you Perfect Golfers, there is nothing to see in this post - sorry.  For you Course Forgers, maybe there is something to see here.

 

Today, I decided to run a test to see if all of my hard work to preserve frame rates was worth it.  In short, it was absolutely worth it!  The screen shots below will help illustrate.

 

Note: This is the worst view on the course because it looks across the longest cross section of the terrain and sees the most golf holes.  So, all the draw calls just add up.

 

Pic 1 (lots of 2 plane trees in 4 meshes, 64K per mesh).  This is what it looks like in Unity when all 31,760 trees are combined into 4 meshes:

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Pic 2 - 17 fps: without the meshes combined.  This is as if all the trees were just in the scene and not combined into the 4 meshes.  Simplified for perspective, 4 draw calls vs 31,760 4 draw calls:

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Pic 3 - 44 fps:  draw calls reduced due to 4 meshes of about 64k each as opposed to calling all 31,760 trees individually

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While this is good news, there is a draw back.  The course file size is close to 400 mb and there are no houses, no club house and really no structures.  There is no free lunch in Unity, so as a designer you have to decide what you want (at least when it comes to mesh combines).  I will say that I have at least 15 other mesh combines in this build.  So, maybe the happy medium is to not have so many mesh combines... that way you can add other stuff like structures.

 

Anyway, I gained 27 fps and I think that's a decent outcome even if it does take a little extra effort.

[Stingreye]

I for one vote for bigger file size and more fps. Good trade off and storage is getting cheaper.

[jspirate]

Wheeeeee~, all 18 holes of Crow's Nest are in!

Over the next 2 weeks I am going to try to finish up some miscellaneous stuff and then put it out as a non-3DG beta.  I will not start the 3DG version until it gets some more significant play time.

 

In the mean time, I will continue my spamming ways with a few pics of hole 18:

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[vainte]

Really excited to play this. love courses with plenty of white knuckle strategies.

 

Thanks for all your hard work Scott!

[jspirate]

Really excited to play this. love courses with plenty of white knuckle strategies.

 

Thanks for all your hard work Scott!

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Its not really that hard, but the elevation changes do throw you for a loop.  Its one of those courses that is alot easier the second time you play it as compared to the first.  I guess a lot of courses are like that though.

 

Anyway, if you are on your game a low score is not hard to come by.  There is a drive-able par 4 and all the 5's are reachable in 2 unless the wind is straight in your face.  There are four par 5's and for Par 3's.  I don't think I've ever shot above par on it, but I have a couple rounds where I was working for those pars.

 

One note.... this is my first course where I really feel like the HARD pins are genuinely harder than the medium and easy pins.  I would recommend leaving the hard pins alone for the first time playing it.

 

After re-reading what I just wrote above, it sounds just like all the other courses out there LOL