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[NoPutt]

The LINKS fringes were done with hard extrusions of which

Unity and CF have none. It's more of a subtle bend so

I doubt it would result in a strange angled bounce, but I would expect 

to see some type of soft deterrent in a random direction.

[TimBoch]

K11, that is a huge improvement in texture depth. It give the appearance of depth that we used to get in APCD by extruding and blending. I only used this technique on tee boxes as the ball would rarely land in this area and cause the rebound issues Daz mentioned. This technique would make a great tutorial for making course look even more realistic.

[Drrobmiller]

wow,..extrusions...remember that???   heheh,...Always looked good for the tee boxes

 

 

Rob

[highfade]

The in-land 9 nearing completion. The island to left is where the lighthouse and the 17th tee goes.

 

 

The 5th par 4

 

The 7th, long par 3.

[NoPutt]

Very Nice HF, love the plowed fields, oh, and the rocks.

Great texture medley too.

Please tell me it's not named "5 Brothers".

[highfade]

No brothers man, it's CAPE FEAR

 

AGAIN...

 

[Kablammo11]

Another (beautiful) links course. Looks great, highfade! Makes me a bit glad that I opted for an alpine setting, though, what with everybody and their grandmother now doing seaside courses. They all look great, btw, at least those I've seen and they do have a stunning visual variety between themselves, btw.

 

But what of Five Sisters, you may well not ask. So here's a brief video update about the progress up to date, feel free to observe the Raised Fringes™ in action. Or take in the sights. No mistake about the music this time, it sort of stuck after my last audio accident.

 

 

[NoPutt]

Ahh, A movie favorite, love both versions,

but DeNiro takes Max Cady to new heights.

Great work HF.

[NoPutt]

Another (beautiful) links course. Looks great, highfade! Makes me a bit glad that I opted for an alpine setting, though, what with everybody and their grandmother now doing seaside courses. They all look great, btw, at least those I've seen and they do have a stunning visual variety between themselves, btw.

 

But what of Five Sisters, you may well not ask. So here's a brief video update about the progress up to date, feel free to observe the Raised Fringes™ in action. Or take in the sights. No mistake about the music this time, it sort of stuck after my last audio accident.

 

 

Very Exciting K11, gives me a cold shiver.

[highfade]

Another (beautiful) links course. Looks great, highfade! Makes me a bit glad that I opted for an alpine setting, though, what with everybody and their grandmother now doing seaside courses. They all look great, btw, at least those I've seen and they do have a stunning visual variety between themselves, btw.

 

But what of Five Sisters, you may well not ask. So here's a brief video update about the progress up to date, feel free to observe the Raised Fringes™ in action. Or take in the sights. No mistake about the music this time, it sort of stuck after my last audio accident.

 

 

 

Sorry, don't do alpine, too high for me.  Looks good K11, almost just like TGC.

 

I always struggle to watch stuff on Vimeo, takes longer to load and have a lot of stutter. 

[DC#1]

Looks very nice K11.

[Kablammo11]

Thank you. Sorry about Vimeo, highfade, but YouTube is simply not on for me. I hope you were at least able to admire the high fade I played on hole 16. 

 

Now for the rocks. New models, wouldn't do to recycle the old ones. Just the four of them should suffice. From front to back, they are 

• Edgy
• Softie
• Pokey
• Spiky

 

That's the name given to them by our resident Blammocorp mineralogist, at least, a guy called Douglas E. Style (though he prefers to be called "Doug")

 

 

Have to start watching my tri count... There's still grass and course furniture to add as well, but this is one of the more tri-heavy bits of the course, the upper regions are a lot more barren.

[frank70]

Thank you. Sorry about Vimeo, highfade, but YouTube is simply not on for me. I hope you were at least able to admire the high fade I played on hole 16. 

 

Now for the rocks. New models, wouldn't do to recycle the old ones. Just the four of them should suffice. From front to back, they are 

• Edgy
• Softie
• Pokey
• Spiky

 

That's the name given to them by our resident Blammocorp mineralogist, at least, a guy called Douglas E. Style (though he prefers to be called "Doug")

 

 

Have to start watching my tri count... There's still grass and course furniture to add as well, but this is one of the more tri-heavy bits of the course, the upper regions are a lot more barren.

Looks great K11. But what about the edges where land meets water? Is there any way to make this transition smoother? I think that's the most glaring weakness of PG graphics. Just doesn't look natural at all. You made some great stuff with that at Willow Heath.

[NoPutt]

Looks really good K.

I think the water looks good when it's moving with some grasses

and rocks along the edge. Sure, it can be made to be transparent on

the edges, with even sand moving underneath, and fish swimming along,

and frogs jumping in, and sparkles form the sun,but this is Golf and we're

supposed to stay out of the water. Of course I know we all want every inch

the course to look and feel realistic, and I think this will happen in the future,

but for now compromises must be made, and water seems to be one of them.

Great job K

[Acrilix]

I think the water looks good when it's moving with some grasses

and rocks along the edge. Sure, it can be made to be transparent on

the edges........

 

I saw this transparent water edge explained on one of the Unity tutorials that were posted. Is there a reason that no one is using this method yet on courses for PG?

[Mike Jones]

Acrilix, in a word - performance. Refraction and reflection take up a lot of CPU cycles.

 

If you want to cut the number of trees in half and have a refractive and reflective lake you can do it, it's entirely down to the designer.

[Kablammo11]

Looks great K11. But what about the edges where land meets water? Is there any way to make this transition smoother? I think that's the most glaring weakness of PG graphics. Just doesn't look natural at all. You made some great stuff with that at Willow Heath.

 

Ah, Frank...

Frank, Frank, Frank.... Clearly you're relatively new in this neighbourhood. Follow the link to post 589 of this thread and read on a bit:

 

http://www.perfectparallel.com/topic/428-show-tell/page-30#entry11115

 

Long story short: I was wrestling with riparian demons ere you even knew PG existed. Yes, the shoreline situation depicted  in the image above is completely unacceptable. No, I haven't done anything about it yet. Work in progress.

Reeds, grasses, rocks and shoreline crinkling will be employed. Note that at Five Sisters, although a river runs along the length of the course and infringes on 16 holes, only about 20% of shoreline are likely to come into view from the golf playing areas, the rest of them being hidden by steep banks or obscured by sufficient distance. The only way players might get to see these sore spots is while playing a bad shot - potential design insufficiencies shall be their deserved punishment.

I'll do what I can - and that isn't much. For this as for many other things I stand by my verdict from 2 videos ago: "This ain't exactly Pixar..." And I ain't John Alan Lasseter. 

 

And no more reflection/refraction comments, please! Water reflects! And it's transparent! Who knew? Really, trust me on this guys, all of us designers happen to be fully aware of this. If it doesn't reflect and doesn't refract, then the reason for that is intent, not oversight.

[frank70]

Was no critic at all. Actually the opposite. You did a great job “hiding“ these edges with water plants at Willow. These transitions between the different terrains are the only thing where the graphics of PG doesn'treally look sufficient to me.

[J.H.Buchanan]

I think I bunkered too much pot already on this course... Anyway, here's the same thing in 3D and on moving pictures.

 

 

Easy pin in front of the main trap - the strange bounce of the ball is my bad, I got some meshes entangled during construction, will get sorted. Note how a 127y wedge easily covers a 158y distance...

The Birdie sounds .... sound exactly like where I live - uh, thats the main thing .. thanks !!! 

[NoPutt]

Still lots to do, but all the water works are in,

and testing shouldn't be to far away.

The Tom Doak book recommended by Mike

really helped with the strategy on this design.