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[Buck]

Again you have a choice to pay or not pay as nobody has a gun to your head forcing you too.

 

I just find comments like these to be wholly unhelpful to the discussion.

 

You're right - Everyone can just "go away" if they don't like anything in life.  

Not sure how that helps to further the discussion though.

[sirputterman]

I think this will be the last ime I also comment on this one but don't hold me too it   I think that this has been discussed a fair bit and I can completely understand there being some things  not being answered or some miss information being put out there( not intentionally, just through honest miss understanding or miss interpitations) So really until PP announces EXACTLY how and what the season pass will be implemented, then really there is not much more that can be said about it. Yes I understand the passion of both sides of for and against but until PP makes it perfectly clear and pricing we are all (yes me included) speculating what exactly we are for or against.

Again this is just a suggestion: PP to make a pinned topic just on the complete details of  what the season pass will be and include . Clear up the debate of CF and what  you will be able to do such as play test. Will this need a season pass?

I know this one may be a tougher task but  come out with the different "options" as far as buying the season pass will be, ideally pricing also announced.The sooner that members know this  information the better, simply so they can make an accurate and informed  choice as to whether how or if they will be interested in participating in  it or not. This would not only be benificial to members but to PP also, as then if they come out with clear, concise, information there is less of a chance of members saying "Well I wasn't informed of this"  thus less resentment from any possibly miss understanding like what iS happening as of now.

Now this information  when it is  made available  by PP  may or may  not be to everyone's liking but that is nothing we can do about. At the very least it will give us members some time to ponder and possibly to make budget changes in order to be able to participate in it or if they have to make the harsh choice of this is something they simply can not justify. for whatever reasons they may have.            

[BLINDT]

PP can take my $4.99....BUT THEY WILL NEVER TAKE MY FREEDOM

 

[J_Schollmeyer]

Amen.

[Drgnslyr221]

PP can take my $4.99....BUT THEY WILL NEVER TAKE MY FREEDOM

You win the internets today,  my friend! 

[Dazmaniac]

PP can take my $4.99....BUT THEY WILL NEVER TAKE MY FREEDOM

 

Even William agrees........

 

[Flyon]

 ...if you want to get the new version next year its another $60 and guess what you wont be able to play this year version with last years version...

 

Yes, that is right. That is why we have TW '99 through TW '08. What a genius observation on your part.
 

 

 ...like EA does all the time and with this game you are paying to have a game that updates all the time so how is that not a good thing.

 

So, improvements every year to a game are a bad thing? Wow, you definitely have the PG blinders on...

 

Other than that, the thing you got way wrong now is that EA messed up with Rory. Wrong. Dead wrong.
They got Rory right, so I don't see an need for buying next year's version. On the other hand, if EA keeps the Rory model as it is, or somehow they think they can make it better, then I will have no problem with shelling out another 60 bucks. The same will apply to 2017, '18' 19' 20', etc., if need be. I will buy it every year, because it is a great product. The good news? It won't cost me 4.99 a month.

 

Sorry, no one then, nor now, could ever duplicate the successes of the Tiger Woods PGA Tour series from '99 to '08. It is exactly why it sold well every year it was released. You can bet the farm that is not going to change with the Rory series. Unfortunately for you, PG head cheerleader, that kind of success will never happen here with Perfect Parallel.
 

With the current Rory, new courses are being added automatically, and not at the rate of one every six months -if we're lucky- as the way it sits in PG here now.
We are getting a new course here in PG, but it's going to be p2p? That is ridiculous, and makes no sense whatsoever, when this golf game is still in a four year beta.
This game is FAR  from complete -which should be the case before starting to sell p2p courses. This game is not even close to being a finished product in my view.

 

You need to get your facts straight before slamming another company with a better product, rather than always praising the inferiority that's going on here with PG now.

 

So stick that in your pipe and smoke it, cheerleader...now go get your pom-poms.

[Drgnslyr221]

Yes, that is right. That is why we have TW '99 through TW '08. What a genius observation on your part.
 

 

 

So, improvements every year to a game are a bad thing? Wow, you definitely have the PG blinders on...

 

Other than that, the thing you got way wrong now is that EA messed up with Rory. Wrong. Dead wrong.
They got Rory right, so I don't see an need for buying next year's version. On the other hand, if EA keeps the Rory model as it is, or somehow they think they can make it better, then I will have no problem with shelling out another 60 bucks. The same will apply to 2017, '18' 19' 20', etc., if need be. I will buy it every year, because it is a great product. The good news? It won't cost me 4.99 a month.

 

Sorry, no one then, nor now, could ever duplicate the successes of the Tiger Woods PGA Tour series from '99 to '08. It is exactly why it sold well every year it was released. You can bet the farm that is not going to change with the Rory series. Unfortunately for you, PG head cheerleader, that kind of success will never happen here with Perfect Parallel.
 

With the current Rory, new courses are being added automatically, and not at the rate of one every six months -if we're lucky- as the way it sits in PG here now.
We are getting a new course here in PG, but it's going to be p2p? That is ridiculous, and makes no sense whatsoever, when this golf game is still in a four year beta.
This game is FAR  from complete -which should be the case before starting to sell p2p courses. This game is not even close to being a finished product in my view.

 

You need to get your facts straight before slamming another company with a better product, rather than always praising the inferiority that's going on here with PG now.

 

So stick that in your pipe and smoke it, cheerleader...now go get your pom-poms.

 

Go along and play your arcade golf game, fine with me.

[Flyon]

Go along and play your arcade golf game, fine with me.

 

Which platform are you referring to as an "arcade golf game", the TW '99 to '08 series, or Rory?

 

Be more specific, or STFU.

Really, your not even worth the time to respond to. But since you are a devout disciple like many others here, preach to the masses about how great this beta is, and of all the bs propoganda these devs are feeding you, it merited my attention now.

I feel you sycophants need to wake up face reality -in a hurry- because all of you are are all about to get a rude awakening.

 

To answer your question about either TW or Rory platform, both platforms -even the TW one dating back to '99- are more appealable to me than this crap.

Four years worth of beta, and this is all they can come up with in late 2015? How sad.

[Mike Jones]

Steady on Flyon, you can disagree with someone but telling them to STFU is definitely not on. No problem with people disagreeing with what PG does or other people's opinions but name calling rarely results in an interesting discussion. 

[Dazmaniac]

So buying a new Rory every year won't cost you $4.99 per month, but will be $60 for the new game each year.

$60 / 12 months = $5 per month.

Damn, you were right.

[Vernon520]

So buying a new Rory every year won't cost you $4.99 per month, but will be $60 for the new game each year.

$60 / 12 months = $5 per month.

Damn, you were right.

Your pricing may be a bit out there Daz. Just had a look on Steam at PG store page which gives both a comprehensive vision for the game and a full release price of around $30-$35. Although such figures are probably not set in stone.

So the subscription fee on that basis may only be about $2.99.

Anyway we will just have to wait see.

[IanD]

Then the game should be free up front and simply be a full subscription for everything model.  (other than licensed courses)

Lost the train of thought on that....sorry ?

 

I think that's a really bad idea... and far worse than what is being suggested. A one off cost for the Game is the better way. They have often stated they want to include the CF freely with the game. So, a one off price gains the full game, several courses and hugely powerful Course Forge that allows endless hours designing courses. Whereas a monthly cost for it's use could become a huge outlay, and never actually see anything created, completed.

[Greensboronclion]

Yes, that is right. That is why we have TW '99 through TW '08. What a genius observation on your part.




So, improvements every year to a game are a bad thing? Wow, you definitely have the PG blinders on...

Other than that, the thing you got way wrong now is that EA messed up with Rory. Wrong. Dead wrong.
They got Rory right, so I don't see an need for buying next year's version. On the other hand, if EA keeps the Rory model as it is, or somehow they think they can make it better, then I will have no problem with shelling out another 60 bucks. The same will apply to 2017, '18' 19' 20', etc., if need be. I will buy it every year, because it is a great product. The good news? It won't cost me 4.99 a month.

Sorry, no one then, nor now, could ever duplicate the successes of the Tiger Woods PGA Tour series from '99 to '08. It is exactly why it sold well every year it was released. You can bet the farm that is not going to change with the Rory series. Unfortunately for you, PG head cheerleader, that kind of success will never happen here with Perfect Parallel.

With the current Rory, new courses are being added automatically, and not at the rate of one every six months -if we're lucky- as the way it sits in PG here now.
We are getting a new course here in PG, but it's going to be p2p? That is ridiculous, and makes no sense whatsoever, when this golf game is still in a four year beta.
This game is FAR from complete -which should be the case before starting to sell p2p courses. This game is not even close to being a finished product in my view.

You need to get your facts straight before slamming another company with a better product, rather than always praising the inferiority that's going on here with PG now.

So stick that in your pipe and smoke it, cheerleader...now go get your pom-poms.

First off Flyon if your waiting for my counter attack your wasting your time as I won't be drawn into a Nasty war of words with you. For the record I own every EA Hockey, Football game they have made since 1994 and still pull out NHL94 on the Sega every once in a while as its one of my all time favorites. I also have all the TW games on multiple systems and do still play those. My problem with Golf from EA on the consoles is that for instance I play TW13 and the TW14 comes out and 13 can't be played with it and that is why I prefer golf on the PC as like Links this game can be improved all the time and I have no problem with paying for that. EA is a great company and I love all their sports titles but the fact is they don't do golf as well as they could. You say Rory is better and I disagree so for me I will agree to disagree and you want to attack me go for it as that is your right but I won't stoop to that level. Merry Christmas and have a nice day.

[Dazmaniac]

Your pricing may be a bit out there Daz. Just had a look on Steam at PG store page which gives both a comprehensive vision for the game and a full release price of around $30-$35. Although such figures are probably not set in stone.
So the subscription fee on that basis may only be about $2.99.
Anyway we will just have to wait see.

V,

I was referring to what Flyon stated about paying $60 every year for a new Rory game instead of paying $4.99 per month.

Wasn't quoting anything that PP may or may not have said about their game.

[burton31cat]

In case people did not know, Rory won't be a yearly release like previous iterations of the Tiger Woods franchise.

[Vernon520]

V,

I was referring to what Flyon stated about paying $60 every year for a new Rory game instead of paying $4.99 per month.

Wasn't quoting anything that PP may or may not have said about their game.

My apologies, I lost track of the argument and got a bit confused about what the argument, sorry the discussion was about.

I think I had better go have a lay down. LOL!

[MERACE]

In case people did not know, Rory won't be a yearly release like previous iterations of the Tiger Woods franchise.

Also, FYI, along with having the standard arcade mode (adding spin to the ball after the ball is struck) RM has a very challenging Tour mode. You can make Tour mode even more difficult by changing the swing difficulty to hard. In this custom mode the controller swing incorporates tempo and left and right misses on less than straight movement of the analogue stick. However, there is a green circle fill meter which is very distracting (hoping they will add an option to eliminate the meter) .

RM even has a 3 click swing option.


-MERACE

[Buck]

Lost the train of thought on that....sorry ?

 

I think that's a really bad idea... and far worse than what is being suggested. A one off cost for the Game is the better way. 

 

I completely agree - I also do not want 3rd party courses locked behind the monthly fee and indeed prefer fully paying up front.  

 

I would like to actually be buying something and if I source an occasional 3rd party course here and there I should be free to use it.  

 

It would really be great to see the monetization strategy not be an artificial feature lock out (user gen courses) and focus more on what it *is* providing vs what it's restricting if you don't "pay up".

[Buck]

So buying a new Rory every year...

 

As has been stated, EA isn't doing that anyways..

 

But even if they were, I would have no issue with that as you get all the benefits of a fixed release.

 

Rory is tough to do a direct comparison on because of no course designer.