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[Buck]

Wow
 
Want to get sadder about being abandoned
 
Virtual Golf 3 has been announced and the visuals are jaw dropping

https://x.com/Trackm...579519659065491
 
 

[Buck]

And the course library?

Holy smokes...



Full courses

Achimer Golfclub
Adare Manor
Albany GC
Alingsås Golfklubb
Arthur Hills at The Highlands
Aurora International
Bahia Beach Golf Club
Bakers Bay Golf & Ocean Club
Barnbougle Dunes
Barnbougle Lost Farm
Barsebäck Golf & Country Club - Ocean
Barsebäck Golf & Country Club - Pine Course
Bay Harbor - Links/Quarry
Bay Harbor - Preserve/Links
Bay Harbor - Quarry/Preserve
Bear Dance, The Golf Club
Bear Lakes CC Lakes Course
Bellerive CC
Bethesda CC
Bethpage Black
Black Desert Resort
Black Water Links
Blackhawk CC - Falls Course
Blackhawk CC - Lakeside Course
Bonn Godesberg
Bonnie Doon Golf Club
Bowen Island
Breitenloo G.C.
Brickhampton Court Golf Complex - Spa Course
Camiral Golf Stadium Course
Camiral Golf Tour Course
Cape Wickham Links
Casa De Campo 'Teeth of the Dog'
Cherokee Town and Country Club
Chileno Bay
Chimera Golf Club
Clearwater Golf Club
Club - Tournament Course
Club de Golf Chapultepec
Club De Golf Le Mirage - Arizona
Club De Golf Le Mirage - Carolina
Conway Farms GC
CostaTerra
Country Club of Jackson
Craig Ranch
Crans-sur-Sierre Golf Club
Crystal Pines
Dedham Country & Polo Club
Devil's Island
Donalda Club
Driftwood Golf and Ranch Club
Dundrum Golf Club
Dye Fore Golf Course - Chavon & Lagos
Dye Fore Golf Course - Lagos & Marina
Dye Fore Golf Course - Marina & Chavon
Eagle Course At Wohali
Eaglewood GC
Echizen Country Club
Eichenried Open.9
El Dorado Golf & Beach Club
Eniwa CC: Akan and Mashu
Eniwa CC: Mashu and Shikotsu
Eniwa CC: Shikotsu and Akan
Escondido Golf and Lake Club
Evian Resort Golf Club - Champions Course
Falmouth CC
Fana Golfklubb
Fields Ranch East at PGA Frisco
Fields Ranch West at PGA Frisco
Fieldstone G.C.
Firestone Country Club South
Fontana GC
Fota Island - Barryscourt
Fota Island - Belvelly
Fota Island - Deerpark
Franklin Hills CC
GC Budersand
GC München Eichenried
GC Neuhof Parkland Course
GC Neuhof Skyline Course
GKG Golf Club
Glen Abbey GC
Glen Oaks
Gloria Golf Resort - New Course
Gloria Golf Resort - Old Course
Gloria Golf Resort - Verde Course
Golf & More Huckingen
Golf Club de Genève
Golf Club Hanau-Wilhelmsbad
Golf Club Herzogenaurach
Golf de Andratx
Golf De La Boulie Forest Course
Golf De La Boulie Valley Course
Golf de Saint-Cloud Green Course
Golf de Saint-Cloud Yellow Course
Golf De Seignosse
Golf Du Fort
Golf Fleesensee
Golf Lounge Resort - Black Course
Golf Lounge Resort - Red Course
Golf Ybrig
Golfbaan Bentwoud Oostwoud Zuidwoud
Golfbaan Bentwoud Westwoud Oostwoud
Golfbaan Bentwoud Zuidwoud Westwoud
Golfclub Gut Murstätten
Golfclub Kagerzoom
GolfPark Moossee
Gozzer Ranch
Great Northern
Great Northern Academy
Green Valley Ranch
Gut Kaden G.C. A-B
Gut Kaden G.C. C-A
Gut Kaden G.C. C-B
Hallbrook Country Club
Hart Common Golf Club
Hartford Golf Club
Hawktree Golf Club
Het Rijk van Margraten
Het Rijk van Nijmegen
Hidden Canyon
Hillcrest C.C.
Hillerød Golf Klub
Hillside Golf Club
Hillwood CC
Hinton Rönnebäck GC
HLGC Hittfeld
Hofgut Scheibenhardt Golf Club
Holzhäusern Golf Park
Hong Kong Golf Club
Hualalai Resort
Hudson National
Innisbrook Copperhead
Interlachen CC
Iron Horse Golf Club
Ke'olu Golf Course
Kempferhof Golf Course
Keppel Club
Kettle Brook GC
Keya Golf Club
Kiawah Island Club - Cassique
Kingsfield Golf Centre
Kissing Tree
Koksijde Golf ter Hille
La Vista
Lago Mar Country Club
Lahinch GC
Lake Geneva Country Club
Lakewood Country Club
Landeryds GC - Classic
Landeryds GC - Masters
Le Golf National
Le Touquet Golf Resort
Leatherstocking Golf Course
Liberty National GC
Lidingö Golf Club
Linköping GolfKlubb
Lofoten Links
London Gardens
Long Sutton G.C.
Longleaf Golf & Family Club
Losby Østmork Course
Lübker Golf Resort
Machynys GC - Monk's Island
Mainzer Golf Club
Makena Golf & Beach Club
Malaro Golfklubb
Manasquan River Golf Club
Marcella Club
Marco Simone Golf and Country Club
Matsumoto Asama Country Club
Meadowbrook Country Club
Medinah Country Club
Meland Golf Club
Miacomet Golf Course
Mieminger Plateau GC
Miklagard GolfKlubb
Montecito Club
Mount Edgecombe The Woods
Muirfield Village G.C. 2021
Mullingar GC
NCR C.C. South Course
Nemacolin - Shepherd's Rock
Nemacolin- Mystic Rock
New Golf Club - Neu-Ulm
Noboribetsu Country Club
Nokia River River Course
Nokia River Rock Course
Nøtterøy Golf Club
Oakdale Golf and Country Club
Oakwood CC
Olympic Club Lake Course
Olympic Golf Course
Orchard Lake Country Club
Oswego Lake CC
Overbrook Golf Club
Oxbow Country Club
Palmerstown Golf Club
Paris International G.C.
Park Golf Club
Pebble Beach Golf Links*
PGA National
PGA West Mountain
PGA West Nicklaus Tournament Course
PGA West Stadium
Phoenix CC Nichinan - Takachiho
Phoenix CC Sumiyoshi - Nichinan
Phoenix CC Takachiho - Sumiyoshi
Pine Brook C.C.
Pinehurst No.2
Plainfield Country Club
Playa Grande Golf & Ocean Club
Pokegama G.C
Port Huron G.C.
Portland Golf Club
Prairie Bluff
Primland - Highland Course
Promontory - Dye Canyon Course
Promontory - Nicklaus Painted Valley Course
Quail Hollow Club
Quaker Ridge Golf Club
Quarry Ridge
Real Club Valderrama
Reykjavik Grafarholt
Reykjavik Korpa Ain/Lindid
Reykjavik Korpa Sjorinn/Ain
Reykjavik Korpa Sjorinn/Landid
Richland Country Club
Ridgewood CC - Championship Course
Riyadh Golf Course
Rochester Golf and Country Club
Royal Birkdale
Royal County Down Championship Links
Royal Drottningholm GC
Royal Homburger
Royal Melbourne Golf Club - Composite Course
Royal Melbourne Golf Club - East Course
Royal Melbourne Golf Club - West Course
Royal Ottawa GC
Royal Portrush - Dunluce Links
Royal St George's
Royal Troon
Rungsted Golf Course
Rya Golfclub – Seaside Course
Schloss -Platz
Scioto Country Club
Sea Island Plantation
Sea Island Seaside
Sebonack
Shadowlands
Shangri-La GC, Champions & Heritage
Shangri-La GC, Heritage & Legends
Shangri-La GC, Legends & Champions
Shaughnessy Golf & Country Club
Shelter Harbor
Shishido Hills Country Club - West Course
Shizu Hills Country Club
Shooting Star
Silo Ridge Field Club
Silverleaf Club
Skerike Golfklubb
Southview C.C.
Spyglass Hill *
St Andrews Links Castle Course
St Andrews Links Jubilee Course
St Andrews Links New Course
St Andrews Links Old Course
St Clair Champions Course
St Clair Terrace Course
St. George's Golf and Country Club
Stensballegaard Golf Club Elbaek/Brakor
Stensballegaard Golf Club Guldbjerg/Brakor
Stensballegaard Golf Club Guldbjerg/Elbaek
Stock Brook G.C.
Stoneham Golf Club
Strandtorp Course
Stuttgart Solitude Golf Club
Sutton Bay
Suvarna Jakarta GC: Blue and Green
Suvarna Jakarta GC: Green and Red
Suvarna Jakarta GC: Red and Blue
Sweetens Cove GC
Tacoma Golf & Coutry Club
Taiheiyo Club Gotemba Course
Taiheiyo Club Minori Course
The Camelia Course at Killearn
The Club at Olde Stone
The Concession Golf Club
The Drift Golf Club
The Grove
The Hay*
The Heather at The Highlands
The Hideaway - Clive Clark Course
The Hideaway - Pete Dye Course
The Links at Spanish Bay*
The Madison Club
The Manchester Golf Club
The National Golf Brussels
The National Sweden - Lakes
The National Sweden - Links
The Nottinghamshire Championship Course
The Reserve at Moonlight Basin
The Royal Montreal Golf Club - Blue
The Royal Sydney Golf Club - Championship
The Summit Club
The Valley Course at Crane Valley Golf Club
Thumper Pond Resort
Timberline Golf Club
Timra Golf Club
TPC Colorado
Trinity Forest Golf Club
Troubadour Golf and Field Club
Troxhammar Golfklubb
Trump International, Dubai
Union League Golf Club at Torresdale
Union League Liberty Hill
Valhalla Golf Club
Vallda Golf & Country Club
Vasatorps Golf Club Tournament Course
Vattanac Golf Resort
Wabeek CC
Wachusett CC
Wayzata C.C.
Webster Golf Club
Wembley GC
Wentworth West Course
West Essex Golf Club
WGC Gütersloh
White Bear Yacht Club
Whitetail Ridge
Wilshire CC
Woodmont Country Club
Wörthsee
Wylihof Golf Course Blue/Red
Wylihof Golf Course Red/Yellow
Wylihof Golf Course Yellow/Blue
Yellowstone Club
Zwartkop CC

Par 3 courses

Abel's Crossing
Adlington Golf Centre - The Graduate
DaleBrook Forest
Els Performance Golf Academy
Hillcrest Short Course 'The Five'
Leon De Montana
Lostwood Glen
Sand River
Senoja Valley
Sutton Bay Short Course
The Aces Club
The Club at Olde Stone - Sinkhole
The Lost Nine

[jt83]

A lot of computing power directed at a very small crowd.

[RobV]

Well, all I can say is good for the golfers who like VG... I would rather be out on a real course.   However, it would be amazing if something like this got released for the PC.  

[Buck]

Nice shot of Pebble
 

[Buck]

Just beautiful

[KenR]

Oh my, I am a little bit speechless at the obvious upgrade in graphics that has occurred. This is what PG would look like now had the franchise been continued. Very sad indeed that it did not happen.

 

I play EA's PGA Tour 2023 because the courses are so realistic looking. I play single mode only and just enjoy rounds of golf on the provided courses but would switch back to a PG2 in a heartbeat if it were to be resurrected. Frankly, I think Trackman is missing out on a nice steady stream of income by not making this available on the PC. It's a niche market sure, but then so is the Trackman virtual golf industry. If they could just port the "game" to the PC it would be astounding.

 

Thanks for sharing this update. It's amazing!

[Keith]

Oh my, I am a little bit speechless at the obvious upgrade in graphics that has occurred. This is what PG would look like now had the franchise been continued. Very sad indeed that it did not happen.

 

I play EA's PGA Tour 2023 because the courses are so realistic looking. I play single mode only and just enjoy rounds of golf on the provided courses but would switch back to a PG2 in a heartbeat if it were to be resurrected. Frankly, I think Trackman is missing out on a nice steady stream of income by not making this available on the PC. It's a niche market sure, but then so is the Trackman virtual golf industry. If they could just port the "game" to the PC it would be astounding.

 

Thanks for sharing this update. It's amazing!

I've never understood it either..I remember Mike posting here once that making a PC game would be a cinch after getting all of the initial next gen framework in place.  It's frustrating for sure, but oh well.  Screen shots do look fantastic.

[slouis]

I am an avid golfer - the real game,  and here is my opinion.  A Trackman simulator costs around $25,000 USD (I think) and as I live in Canada, it would be about $35,000 CAD.  If I play courses with a green fee of $100 that means I could play 350 rounds.  Our golf season here is at best 6 months.  I play about 40 rounds a season so that would be about 9 years of green fees.  I'll take the real game over a simulator any day.

The graphics look great on a computer monitor but not as good on the large screen that you hit in to on a simulator.   Simulators are good as launch monitors but they still don't simulate the short game such as chips, pitches, bunker shots and putting very well.  

I don't understand why TM doesn't release a updated version of PG with the course graphics in VG3.  PG has more features than EA Sports Golf and RTSM is still the best mouse control method of any PC golf game.  They could add a controller option.  Having a PC version of VG3 will not impact their simulator sales as they are two completely different markets.  It would also be another revenue source for them.

EA Sports Golf has not had an update in months so maybe EA will be abandoning any further development.  

[Buck]

EA Sports Golf has not had an update in months so maybe EA will be abandoning any further development.  

 

They "Rory'd it", again

Key staff members left for 2k quite a while ago apparently

 

Who knows what that could mean for a future 2K "Tiger" game I guess

 

Still, none of it touches PG

 

I'd kill for a PC version of VG3

[Armand]

I think the dream of an updated PG or a PC version of VG3 died long ago when the community (myself included) balked at the idea of an annual or monthly fee to play the game.  Since Mike/Andrew 'lost that battle', I don't think they will ever revisit it.  Unless Mike/Andrew leave Trackman, only then might someone else be open to a computer golf game.  To that end, I wonder what the monthly/annual fee might be to gain access to a computer version of the game?  Perhaps $20 to $50/month?  I wonder how that would go over with the few community members still around and if it would appeal to potential new members for online golf.  My guess is it just wouldn't be sustainable.

[Buck]

I think the dream of an updated PG or a PC version of VG3 died long ago when the community (myself included) balked at the idea of an annual or monthly fee to play the game.  Since Mike/Andrew 'lost that battle', I don't think they will ever revisit it.  Unless Mike/Andrew leave Trackman, only then might someone else be open to a computer golf game.  To that end, I wonder what the monthly/annual fee might be to gain access to a computer version of the game?  Perhaps $20 to $50/month?  I wonder how that would go over with the few community members still around and if it would appeal to potential new members for online golf.  My guess is it just wouldn't be sustainable.

 

I just wish they'd "offer it"

 

It would cost them basically nothing to add-in / keep controller/mouse support

 

As for those of us here balking at it in the past.. we are nothing and that whole thing was now 6 years ago also

 

There's a whole wide world of potential out there if thinking of the markets beyond the general video gamer

I wouldn't worry about the cross shopper from something like the EA gamer, who seems to like shooting -24 every round

[Armand]

I'd love to see them make some type of offer as well!  But a while ago I decided to stop hoping that something more might come from PG to avoid disappointment.  I don't disagree with you at all, Buck, and while I wish it to come true, I can't even let myself think that any furture update or new game will come.  If it does from Trackman (or even Perfect Parallel - or does that company no longer exist?!), I'll be pleasantly surprised and much more inclined to some type of subscription licence, if that is what's offered.

[RobV]

I think the whole "license" thing died down once Trackman approached Mike/Andrew and gave them an offer they couldn't refuse.   They weren't making the money from PG alone, but they did have other 'golf' services they offered and maybe that wasn't lucrative either...  so, take the offer from Trackman, they got jobs and living their dream.    Overall, I agree with everyone, why not make a version for PC?   I think PG or whatever name they would give it, would be more popular than ever!   These newer golf games are obviously not making the cut!   (no pun intended)... 

[KenR]

I'd kill for a PC version of VG3

 

I wouldn't "kill" for it, but I would pay a reasonable monthly or annual subscription fee. Key word is reasonable. $10 a month or a $99 up front annual price would be sustainable for a great golf game with updates and new courses. I would love it....

[IanK]

Virtual Golf 3 looks superb but it’s never going to be offered as a PC game. Mike told a few ‘porkies’ before he abandoned Perfect Golf and its loyal followers, and I doubt very much that he even reads the latest posts on this ‘forum’, let alone reply to them.

I believe the latest PGA Tour Golf 2K25 will be announced very soon and I hope very much it will still have the course designer, as that’s what really interests me, as it did on PG.

I did play PG a few days ago for the first time in three years, and it still looks pretty good but it’s too much of a pain to learn the un-user friendly course designer all over again.

[maxie]

Loyal followers? There was 16 in the lobby last night me being one of them ,still playing and loving the game.

[Keith]

Virtual Golf 3 looks superb but it’s never going to be offered as a PC game. Mike told a few ‘porkies’ before he abandoned Perfect Golf and its loyal followers, and I doubt very much that he even reads the latest posts on this ‘forum’, let alone reply to them.

I believe the latest PGA Tour Golf 2K25 will be announced very soon and I hope very much it will still have the course designer, as that’s what really interests me, as it did on PG.

I did play PG a few days ago for the first time in three years, and it still looks pretty good but it’s too much of a pain to learn the un-user friendly course designer all over again.

Mike's tutorials are still here..go for it man.  I got the bug recently and am currently building a course.  1 last hole to spine out.  It comes back to you fairly quicky.

[IanK]

Loyal followers? There was 16 in the lobby last night me being one of them ,still playing and loving the game.

I was talking about the users when the game was still being developed but I think you knew what I meant!

[IanK]

Mike's tutorials are still here..go for it man.  I got the bug recently and am currently building a course.  1 last hole to spine out.  It comes back to you fairly quicky.

I think I’ll stick with PGA 2K23 until 2K25 is released.