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[brokenclub]

i disconnected from the internet, but then cannot login to steam and no further, hence cant fire up perfect golf?

[Justin9926]

No problem doing it here. Just start steam in offline mode.

[Andrew]

Andrew, will you or Mike ever give us a definitive answer on whether or not PG2 will be released on PC?

As soon as we know I am sure we will.  

[brokenclub]

thanks Justin wasn't getting that option, but rebooted and then able to choose offline

[yesrushdt]

As soon as we know I am sure we will.  

 

Thanks for the reply.  At least it hasn't been totally ruled out yet.  Like Mike Jones said back in January, it wouldn't take much to put a PC version together.  Considering this, not releasing it on PC would be a big mistake. 

[Mic Fleetwood]

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[Mic Fleetwood]

As soon as we know I am sure we will.  

The Sphinx has spoken nice

[jspirate]

As soon as we know I am sure we will.  

Thanks for responding.  While it may not be much, its better than nothing.

[DennisHarris]

Late to the party but thanks Andrew.  I rarely play JNPG offline.  But again we appreciate the update.

[Wirenut48]

Thanks for the reply.  At least it hasn't been totally ruled out yet.  Like Mike Jones said back in January, it wouldn't take much to put a PC version together.  Considering this, not releasing it on PC would be a big mistake. 

It's developed and play tested on the PC so yes it would not take much more to put together a GUI for it. I would think a TM version would be more additional work.

[Buck]

It's developed and play tested on the PC so yes it would not take much more to put together a GUI for it. I would think a TM version would be more additional work.

 

I would have said the same for PG1, but I wouldn't be surprised if the PG2 GUI has been developed around TM usage constraints and design affordances from the get go.

 

I'd expect that more work would now be required for it to be PC user enjoyable vs the opposite.

 

(love to be very wrong - love to see PG2 for PC - just seems like it's not going to happen and it's a major bummer)

[Stingreye]

I would have said the same for PG1, but I wouldn't be surprised if the PG2 GUI has been developed around TM usage constraints and design affordances from the get go.

 

I'd expect that more work would now be required for it to be PC user enjoyable vs the opposite.

 

(love to be very wrong - love to see PG2 for PC - just seems like it's not going to happen and it's a major bummer)

The exception being all the courses they need to design for the TV broadcasts and testing.  Much easier to test with a mouse and keyboard.  They likely are reusing code for the interfaces anyway.  I don't think UI wise, other than shot type, there would be much difference.

[Buck]

The exception being all the courses they need to design for the TV broadcasts and testing.  Much easier to test with a mouse and keyboard.  They likely are reusing code for the interfaces anyway.  I don't think UI wise, other than shot type, there would be much difference.

 

Could be..

I just know that I keep seeing totally differing UI stuff on the videos from Trackman users.

In game & pre-game GUI are both quite different it looks like -- and that's on PG1.

 

Might be even more specialized, refined and optimized for the one/only interaction method and display (large projectors) they are now worried about.

 

(especially problematic for an RTS-C fan like myself.  Mouse/KB are used on TM setups, but controller has no required place in the TM side of design, testing or usage)

[Wirenut48]

The main difference between the two are the style of inputs and the GUI will be different as a result. The input control for TM I would imagine would be much more sophisticated, thus is why I said it would require more work for the final product. For the PC version which we know has been play tested with a controller would just be lacking a custom GUI for it. I can't see why they would go the extra step once they have the TM version. I could see the PC version taking a while longer if they would want to add a career mode and such with it. I would like to see a basic release like PG1 first, then add in the extras.

[Buck]

The main difference between the two are the style of inputs and the GUI will be different as a result. The input control for TM I would imagine would be much more sophisticated, thus is why I said it would require more work for the final product. For the PC version which we know has been play tested with a controller would just be lacking a custom GUI for it. I can't see why they would go the extra step once they have the TM version. I could see the PC version taking a while longer if they would want to add a career mode and such with it. I would like to see a basic release like PG1 first, then add in the extras.

 

And I'm honestly fine with no extras and just PG2 that is a new version of what we have feature wise now.

I'd rather have more features, sure, but if the option is "PG1 forever" or "PG2 with existing features", I'll take the latter for sure.

[Mulligan]

The real question should be "would PG1 courses be compatible with PG2"?

If not, who cares about PG2? 

[Buck]

The real question should be "would PG1 courses be compatible with PG2"?

If not, who cares about PG2? 

 

I'd be pretty surprised if PG2 were so different that PG1 courses didn't work.

TM staff keep cranking out courses right now for PG1 (VG1) infrastructure.  

 

They aren't continuing to make new courses right now that they'll be invalidating when VG2 releases.

That'd be insane on their part.

[DPRoberts]

They will have to solve this in some way because the assets from Unity 5_2_3 don't magically port over to Unity 2018 or whatever they are using. There will be some courses conversion process that may or may not involve some man hours for conversion.

[Buck]

They will have to solve this in some way because the assets from Unity 5_2_3 don't magically port over to Unity 2018 or whatever they are using. There will be some courses conversion process that may or may not involve some man hours for conversion.

 

Is that yet another barrier or thing making it unlikely we ever get PG2 on PC's?

GUI differences, tooling & time for conversions of assets, etc?

 

Never mind..

I have no idea why I am even asking..

I peg our odds of ever getting PG2 on PC at under 5%

[DPRoberts]

Is that yet another barrier or thing making it unlikely we ever get PG2 on PC's?
GUI differences, tooling & time for conversions of assets, etc?

Never mind..
I have no idea why I am even asking..
I peg our odds of ever getting PG2 on PC at under 5%

It shouldn't be a limiting factor in whether we see PG2. They would want to update their current course projects to VG2 and would create a method to do that.